80. When Your Teeth Are Making You Sick: A Journey Through Root Canals, Biological Dentistry, and Healing

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4 Key Takeaways

• Your mouth is a window into your whole body. If you're chronically sick and nobody can find the root cause, the answer may be in your teeth. Root canals, hidden infections, and old dental work can silently fuel systemic inflammation, sinus issues, joint pain, fatigue, and more.
• Referred pain can fool everyone, including your doctors. Pain you feel in your sinus, jaw, or joints may actually be coming from a tooth on the same meridian (the body's energy pathway). Understanding this connection is why working with a true biological dentist matters so much.
• Peptides can be powerful allies in healing. BPC-157 and TB-500, amino acid compounds your body naturally produces, may support rapid tissue repair, reduce inflammation, and help regenerate bone and gum tissue after dental procedures. Samantha credits them as a turning point in her recovery.
• Functional lab testing helps you go deeper than standard bloodwork. The DUTCH test, organic acid testing, GI panels, and food sensitivity testing can reveal hidden hormone imbalances, poor methylation, gut dysfunction, and mold exposure that standard labs routinely miss.

What if the source of your chronic illness was hiding in your mouth?

In this episode, Dr. Rachaele Carver sits down with Samantha Lander, a functional diagnostic nutritionist and passionate advocate for biological dentistry, who spent years searching for answers to debilitating chronic health issues before finally tracing them back to her teeth.

Samantha's story is one a lot of people will recognize: sinus infections that wouldn't quit, fatigue that no one could explain, and practitioner after practitioner who couldn't find the cause. She saw six ENTs. She lived on antibiotics. She tried everything. And it wasn't until she started working with a biological dentist, and eventually had multiple root canal teeth removed, that her body finally began to recover.

Samantha Lander, FDN-P

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Peptides discussed:

• BPC-157 (Body Protecting Compound): supports tissue repair and gut healing
• TB-500: promotes tissue regeneration and reduces inflammation
• Thymosin Alpha-1: supports immune system function
• KPV: may help calm mast cell and histamine responses

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Transcript

Welcome And Guest Introduction

Dr. Rachaele Carver 0:00

Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of The Root of the Matter. I am your host, Dr. Rachel Carver, and today we have the privilege of speaking with Samantha Lander, who is a functional diagnostic nutritionist and became certified in this type of medicine after going through her own journey, just like myself. So, you know, Samantha, let's just get right into it. Tell us your story and how you got into the holistic health and why you're such a fan of biologic tempests.

The Dental Spiral Begins

Sinus Infections And Root Canal Fallout

Tooth Extractions And Six ENT Visits

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Well, I mean, I had that classic story where I was just sick all the time as a child, you know, chronic stomach aches, um, you know, just extreme fatigue and nobody really knew. My dad was Western medicine. So I just got kind of like, you know, spaghetti thrown at the wall constantly until, you know, I think part of my story, it's important because it does pertain to my mouth. But I then part of why I was actually this does pertain. So part of why I was sick a lot is I had a deviated septum. And so I was a super mouth breather. And that you we know if you are a biological condulant that it dries out your teeth and it can cause a lot of mouth issues and structural issues. So that is partially why I was sick a lot, because I got a lot of sinus infections, and so they did the they I ended up doing the deviated septum surgery and when I was in high school, the first one. So just cr chronically sick, and then I I sort of was always in the health space. I did eventually start using a lot of drugs at a period of time in my life. So I would say it was I to me, when I look back, it was the only time I could get out of my way and not think about how bad I felt. Because it was just always like some sort of inflammation where I was sick or my hormones started to get really messed up as I was getting older and you know, self-medicating for ADHD. My drug of choice was meth and GHB and eventually led me down the road of selling drugs. And then I oh it's weird because this is so much of a mouth story. I can just I'm gonna just put it into that. So then I um so I was a meth mouth addict, I was a mouth breather, my dad does have bad teeth. Um, but then I was I did end up getting sentenced to go to prison for selling drugs. And I had a dentist at the time, just a normal, normy dentist, and I don't know if it was a money racket or what it was, but it was like we're gonna just drill out everything and give you and and do root canals and and add fillings to everything. They pulled out some metal fillings that I had. So at one point I did have uh mercury fillings. Uh, you know, they were not done the smart dental technique at all. And I I got like maybe one out, and then later down the road I got more out. And I it I think it was a little excessive, but I think she told my parents, like, well, she's gonna be in prison for 27 months, so let's go to town and make sure she's gonna be okay because there's no dental care there. And you know, it just was that was it. So I went, I got out, I was still, I became a personal trainer, and so it was sort of like the it worked out all the time. I counted calories because that's what you learn when you become a personal trainer. And then I realized very quickly that it's so much more than just that. And I was having my period every other week. I had chronic diarrhea, and I was just super, super sick, and that's when I got into the functional stuff. So I started running the labs on myself, and then I realized very quickly I wanted to be able to run the labs on my clients, and that's when I became a functional diagnostic nutritionist. So I've been doing it since 2010. It's you know, been great. I was a personal trainer for a period of time, and then I could and then do you want to ask a question or should I keep going into the mouth? Keep going, tell us the whole story. All right, so what happened? So fast forward, you know, I I mean I had a lot of dental work here and there. It would sort of go, it would sort of be like I'd go to the dentist and everything would flare up, and then there'd be some big thing, and then I'd be fine for a period of time. And in when was this? It was three years ago, so it was, I don't know, maybe 2023 around then. I maybe a little bit poor, I just got really sick and I couldn't get out of bed. Um, I felt like I had a horrible sinus infection, and it was sort of isolated in my left sinus, and it just I was taking antibiotics, I would get better, and then quickly within two months, I get sick again. And it got to the point where like I it's like you couldn't get out of bed like fatigue, like it it wasn't normal. And I was like, so I just knew something else was going on, but I was I got into a hyperbaric chamber, and when I got into it, I could feel it in a tooth. Yeah, and the pressure in my tooth was so unbearable that I I went to my dent, and then I was like, something is not right. So I went to the dentist and I was like, there is a crack in my tooth, and I need you to do something about it. Like I didn't know at this point I knew nothing about biological dentistry, like so far, like I mean, I was in the functional space, I knew about like mercury fillings and all that and the smart dental technique, but I did not know what I know now, and nobody would do anything about it but a root canal. So I got a root canal, right? So I did the root canal and I got a little bit better, and I think it just sort of sealed the maybe the crack a bit for a period of time, but then I had my upper left tooth. Um, it it it just the the pain was severe. So the nerve was damaged, and you know, what do you do? You get a root canal, right? So it was on a Sunday. I was in so much pain that I went to an emergency dentist and he did this like 20-minute half root canal procedure, right? And just like it was the weirdest thing. And even I was like, I was asking the staff, I'm like, this is not normal. Like, what is it? Does this guy have to get somewhere? Like it was done within like 10 minutes, and I'd had root canals, like I knew something was off. And the next day I went into my dentist at the time and I said they were like, Okay, we're gonna finish this out. And I said, Well, I should probably start antibiotics, don't you think? Like something isn't doesn't feel right. So I'm gonna go home and I'll start them, but like, and it was so infected that they couldn't, you know, the numbing wouldn't work, so they couldn't even numb me. So I had the root canal finished out with no numbing. They sent me home. Oh yeah. It was like strapped down. This is just the beginning, strapped down in a chair. They finished it out, and they uh I went home and my face, I don't know if there's video on this or not, but my face was so spolen. I mean, I can give you pictures and it just became so infected, like I like I can't even like I've never been so sick. I was dry heaving like outside of the office the next like by two days later, and I went in and I was like, I'm not leaving this chair until you do something about this too. And I mean, really, it should have just been pulled. And they ended up they oh, they're like, We're gonna give you a double stack of antibiotics. So they put me on clindomycin and maybe augmentin together. Oh, I lived off cl I lived off antibiotics for two and a half years. It's all I could do to be a mom and to run a business. And um, so and then I said, I you guys we have to like drain this. There has to be fluid. And so they ended up draining it, and it was like a pint of just like fluid that they pulled out. And it, I mean, it felt so good, right? I'm just like, okay, a little bit of relief, and you know, called and codeine and some more antibiotics. So I went home and it got a little bit better, I would say. Not much. I always had this like weird feeling in my sinus, like I have a massive loogie just hanging out out there. And, you know, fast forward, like I I finally learned that it's referral pain. It never had to do with that tooth or not. And this is when I started sort of exploring biological dentistry and like something else has just this isn't it, just didn't feel right in my gut. And I did have a bridge from when I was younger, like way younger, I had a bridge tooth, and I had gone out of town and the bridge cracked off. So here I am with like this crack bridge, and eventually I said, I just want to pull that tooth. Go, I'm not gonna, I want you to pull that tooth. And they said that they can create this bridge with the root canal tooth, they're gonna put a post in it, and I'm like, there's no way that that that's gonna be okay. Like you're putting it into a damaged tooth. Like at this point, I'm slowly learning more and more. And I did find a biological dentist in town, and he ended up pulling the root canal tooth. So that was the first tooth that we pulled. And so that was no big gill, it was kind of one missing. And then eventually I ended up because I just never got better. I would go on antibiotics and then I would stop them. And then I I and I started just doing like three days at a time just to kind of get my bearings and then stop. But I always had this like this like nodule in my sinus. Like it just never and I and I didn't like the only time it went away is if I went on steroids. Um, and that was down the road. Like I didn't get introduced to those, thank god, till later because I felt great on them. But they so they ended up pulling that tooth, nothing got better. We ended up pulling the half-root canal tooth, nothing got better. So basically, my entire left side, every single tooth got pulled, and I was not better. So then I went to an ENT and because I was like, something is in my sinus. At this point, I had put Botox into my jaw, I thought it was TMJ. I had, I mean, you name it, I had probably done it. I was doing the neti pot, I was constantly on the antibiotics and you know, silver spray, you know, all the things, clove oil, like you name it, I was doing it. And I went to an ENT, I went to six ENTs. Yeah. So I fired the first five. One said that they did, they found two of them, like they didn't even do like an MRI or anything. And then I finally went to one that ended up doing a scan of my my sinuses, and they found they did find cysts in my sinuses. And the fifth doctor said, gave me a script for nerve blockers, pain management, and antidepressants. Like, literally, I had spent 60 seconds in here with this guy. I was so sick. And then at the very end, he goes, Well, I haven't even looked at the the imaging. And I was like, I was literally just like fuck you, and I walked out. And I finally found this amazing ENT who just put up with my insanity because we didn't, I didn't really know. And he said, Well, your septum is deviated, like there's an issue again, so we can go in and we can fix that. And that's because I walked into a door, you know, I think a couple years prior. And, you know, we'll go in and remove the cyst. That'll be it. I think that's what it is. I think that's what you're feeling in there. You know, we're gonna go and do that. So this was so here. I have no teeth. I did get a partial. I had I may have had there was a one tooth down here that oh, the one that cracked with the root canal. I ended up pulling that one because I thought that would make me uh feel better. And then I ended up doing the deviated septum surgery, going to my biological dentist the next day and pulling out my very back molar because I would get this like shooting pain that would just kind of shoot down, and I was getting like zingers, they call it. So it felt like electrical pulses would just like zing through the tooth. So that was a new thing for me. Like I'd had a lot of things with all of them. But and so literally he went to pull it out and and it, the molar just popped right out. He's like, I've never seen a tooth pop out like that. And he's I'm at my biodentist by now. We're doing PRV, we're doing ozone, we're doing everything. And then, you know, dry socket because I had the sinus surgery. It was like everything that could go wrong. I was like just bleeding out of every orifice because of this sinus surgery. It was so bad. And this was this was not this November, but the November before. And at that point, like I was sleeping in rooms with like EES systems. I was like, I like I was so sick, and I was just like, I'm done. Like, I'm gonna die and I'm gonna be sick. And I'm gonna tell it's like my tombstone's gonna say, like, I told you I was sick, right? Because there was, I I had exhausted everything. Like I had tried, you know, maybe it's my hormones, maybe it's my gut, like whatever. Like at that point, my gut was shot because I was living off antibiotics. And then I was added in steroids at that point. But I did the surgery, nothing was better, and then we kind of just waited out until so what was it? So in January, I believe, I was I oh, so I ended up getting my implants put in um somewhere along there. I don't remember exactly where, but that was before the sinus surgery. The implants went in. We did three implants. I could not afford ceramic at the time, so I did not do it. We did metal testing and we did all of that. Um, and my doctor had not started doing it. And and Dr. Dom was like, just fly out here and I'm gonna overhaul your whole mouth. I'm like, I really can't, like, I'm like, I can't really do that. Like, I can't, I just he says he does that and it would have worked, but like I had so like I had bone spiculas, like who was gonna take that out? Like nobody would have messed with my mouth. If I went out there and did everything and came back, even my biodentist, I don't know that he would have even touched me because I had like I had bones. There were points where we had to like shake like the molar teeth when they came out. I the way that the the skin was healing over it, it was like there would just be bone like just pushing through, and we'd have to go do surgeries and like this this side was really bad, and it was happening there. Like I'd be home and I'd just take a knife and like rip it open. I mean, I got where I could just pop bone out of my own gum myself. It was insane. And so I one of the implants did end up failing because there wasn't enough bone, and that's where the tooth was where I lost it when I was little. So I did end up getting the two implants, and then they added a little bit to like close it up on there, and then I just was like buying time to start attacking this side. So I pretty much have no teeth, and I had like I just got it, but I had one missing over here. And oh my god, what happened next? It's just it just kept going. It just kept going.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 13:37

Yeah, it sounds just crazy. And after going through all that, what kind of resonated with you that might have been, you know, the cause for this constant pain feeling?

Implants Complications And Bone Spicules

Finding The Real Problem Tooth

SPEAKER_00 13:48

So there was always over here, like I would get like inflammation in my gum, is what it felt like, but it would be like it would just be so sore. And I'd be like, You guys, like something is going on over here, like something is going on. And we knew we were couldn't really do a lot because I couldn't, I wouldn't have been able to eat. And you know, it just everything takes three months or another three months. And so once I got this side done, I ended up uh pulling that tooth and where that was, and it turned out that that tooth was actually like growing, it was like, or it was like, I don't know, growing, but it was like sideways into it. Took like literally three hours to get it out. It was insane. So it was like bent and turned into, and it could have been pushing a nerve, I have no idea. And after that one, I felt really, really good for a good period of time. And I always had one up here that was just a really old root canal that like eventually like the crown fell off and like it just needed to come out. So we did end up pulling that at one point. Did we think that was that was the one that showed up on a comb bean that was like super infected? And so they kept saying, You've got to get rid of it. I felt no different, like nothing after that one. They were like, that's gonna be it. Pulled that, nothing. Then I pulled this, I felt really good. So I I had a period of time where I felt really, really good. I was like, this is it, I feel great. Like we we figured it out. It's like we almost got every single root canal out at this point. I had one more left, and at this point, I did start integrating a lot of peptides with my so when I started working on this side, I started just I just started injecting BPC157 and TB500 into my gums. Just and the first time I did it, I literally just watched because I had these like sweat, all the swelling under my eyes, it just within a minute was gone, like completely gone. And I was like, whatever I'm doing, I'm just gonna keep doing this. Like, this is amazing. These peptides are amazing. I mean, now I've fully integrated peptides into my practice, like I'm part of faculty of peptide university. So like peptides are beautiful, and and they were my saving grace, and they they um so I started doing that to help with the healing process because my immune system was just shy at this point. Like there was not I couldn't even handle taking like a multi-herb supplement barely. Like I just was and I was t so tired. Um but I but I did feel a little bit better after that one like sideways tooth. And then I would say it was about so it was it was May. I started uh be probably the beginning of May, I started to get the like shooting pain again. And it was my my I had I had one more, one more tooth. Like I didn't have any other teeth, and I had one more, and it just I started to get really tired. And I was able to like fight it a little bit more than I did before. And I had a really big presentation that I I knew, like the speaking presentation, that was like I just gotta make it to I gotta make it to May 21st. That day, I mean I was I could feel you could feel systemically the infection running like through your your body. Like I could feel it, and it's on a and I could it was sore, and I was like, it's that tooth. It's like it's that tooth, and I mean at this point, like my dentist thinks that I I I mean I've been in there crying, I've been in there, it is like the most emotional shit. And then when they pull a tooth, like I had one they pulled, then I started crying in the chair for literally an hour, and then I felt like my lung capacity like quadrupled because it was connected to my lungs. It's just it just like I went through like a meridian chart. And I uh so I I got that next Monday after my presentation, I got that tooth pulled, and that was it. So I've been like a rock star since then. But I mean, I just do peptides. I ended up getting, I did end up getting, okay, so one implant here. I do have the implants up here. I have an implant up here, so I just have one more uh crown to get, but I I did end up doing a lot of implants, and the healing process was absolutely remarkable due to the peptides. I they were gonna redo, like this one, they were gonna do more bone grapping and a membrane surgery, and my two dentists literally thought I went to the other dentist and had extra bone grapping and like membrane surgery, and I'm like, no, I just do peptides. I'm literally just injecting peptides in my sinuses, and they're like, like, we've never seen anything like it. So I got cleared to put a crown on my upper uh tooth that we did an implant within like half, and it's been great. I just got like it was probably last week. I just got we redid some crowns because they weren't fitting well, but I got one, two, three, four, five crowns that I teach now. Yeah, they look beautiful, and I got one more. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, crazy, crazy story. I mean, it's it's the root, but I mean, all we can say is like we pulled out every root canal.

Peptides For Healing And Immune Support

Dr. Rachaele Carver 18:26

Yeah, yeah, right. And uh so you know, we've talked a lot about the podcast, obviously, about root canals and the potential to affect us systemically, but because they're a dead tooth, we often do not feel it. Now, I would surmise that you're more of a, you know, a sensitive human being, so that you are more in tune with your body, right? A lot of us, you know, after childhood, you know, we we drop consciousness level and forget it. We're we're totally out of touch with our bodies. So yeah, it always drives me nuts when a patient comes to me and they say, Well, the doctor just said, you know, kind of wrote me off and and said it, you know, just give it time or whatever. And, you know, even it's frustrating as a dentist to to look and not be able to find something specific, but I never hard to see. Yeah, I know that's a thing, it's never negate a patient. And sometimes I will look to the patient and say, What do you think is wrong? You're the one living in your body. So what does it feel like to you? And you know, patients aren't used to being asked that, right? And so then sometimes they're just kind of like, huh. Well, now that you mention it, I think, you know, blah, blah, blah. Um, and I think that's one of the roles as a biologic dentist is you're looking at that whole body. And that includes the mental, the spiritual, you know, all those other aspects of a person. And we cannot forget, just because we may have all these letters after our mane, doesn't mean we know what it feels like to be in somebody else's body. So I think that's that's a big difference when you have a biological philosophy, is that you know emotions impact these things, you know, spiritual, the environmental factor, there's so many things that impact our physiology that we need to go beyond the biochemistry, right?

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. And it, I mean, it was just, you know, and you and you feel like you're crazy, but it uh if when I look back, it's like every time, like by the end, I was like, nope, I know, like I know, pull it out, like I don't care, like I'm so used to pulling teeth at this point, whatever. But in the beginning, it's like it's your teeth. Like it's like it's it's you don't pull teeth, that's like so abnormal, which it probably should be a little bit more normalized. Like my clients, I'm like, if it's in the back, I'm like, just pull it. Like, pull it. Like you don't need it. Like, trust me, you're gonna feel so much better. But it's it definitely like like I knew, like, if you listen to your body, those symptoms are telling you. So, like, and you have the gift of understanding like the organ murding chart, and then all the people you have seen, and you'll know, like, okay, do you have knee pain? What is your like I had the knee pain, that left knee pain. I had the toe that locked up. I mean, my toe, my big toe, totally locked up till I pulled the tooth that was like whatever connected with that one. Like, it's just insane. It's it's not insane, but it's the body. Yeah, but yeah, yeah.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 21:05

It's great. So, you know, our audience, I haven't really talked about peptides much at all, I don't think. So explain to the audience and people who may not know what a peptide is, what is a peptide and why was it so instrumental in your healing?

SPEAKER_00 21:18

So peptides are a molecule that your body naturally makes, so it's just amino acid, and you can get them in capsule form or injectable or nasal sprays and all different routes at this point and patches, but it's gonna go in and it's gonna kind of turn on certain receptors and turn them off. So, one that people can probably relate to is a GLP. So a GLP is a whether retitrutide or trzepatide or semi-glutide, those that is a peptide. Insulin is a peptide. So, what are we doing? The mechanism of action for a GLP is like we're gonna turn on you know, we're gonna slow gastric amputine, we're gonna dim that reward center, and you know, we're gonna help burn fat. So So different peptides have different roles, and there's a bunch of them. And for me, thymusin alpha one is sort of the one that just sort of boosts that immune system. KPV can help you with that mast cell histamine. So my body was so overloaded that I needed to just basically calm, calm it down and then build it up at the same time. So thymusin alpha one is always a really good one, I think, for dentists and KPV. Um I did injectable on everything with BPC and T uh BPC 157 and TV 500. That is a very common one that a lot of people are talking about. Um it it's they call it wolverine because it's your body, it's body protecting compound. Like it's it's basically going to protect your body um from inflammation and it's also going to repair tissue at like a rapid rate. Gut healing, surgeries, anything like that. I didn't add in copper, that's a big one for tissue. But like I took copper stings, and I'm not about to inject that into my mouth, but I do and you know, injectables of that. But the BBC 157 and TB500 is known for how it protects the body and it heals the tissue and repairs it. And you will hear story after story, even with my clients where you know they have a you know potential situation where they're gonna have to have surgery on their sold shoulder or their knee, and they just start doing it in their knee, and next thing you know, they don't have to have surgery.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 23:20

That's I mean, he started taking the BPC 157. I was uh getting it for him, and he's like, all the arthritis, everything, he's just he's like, I feel like a totally different person. When I w when I run out of it, I feel the difference. And that's great. Now, because that one's so small, you can take that one orally. So, you know, yeah. I even give that to my teenage daughter, um, you know, to help she, you know, her diet's not great. The and so I just got a lot of skin stuff. So I'm like, if we can heal your gut, you know, because I don't want to put her on the Accutane, you know, I'm trying to avoid that kind of stuff. Um, and it was it was making a difference. Now the problem with her is, you know, the consistency of it. Cause um Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

Yeah, and I don't know but yeah, you need to Yeah, I don't know if she can do yeah, I don't know if she can do ejectables, but KPV, like an injectable KPV is really good, and glutothione is really good for acne. But also doing like a proper GI panel is always like, you know, yeah, really doing a comprehensive like six-day stool test during the full moon when parasites are breeding, maybe do some biofilm work prior. You'll probably figure out what's going on. But it could be it could be hormonal. We got a lot. Women got the hard we have to do it all.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 24:29

Yeah, she's uh yeah, she's been uh uh gut issue friendly when she knows it too, you know, and she she complains about her skin. I say, Well, where where'd her skin problems come from? She's like, Oh, the gut. I'm like, okay, well, you know, you can kind of control what you put in your mouth. So I don't know what to tell you. But it's interesting, I was just listening to a podcast earlier about peptides, and we're fortunate now that in the FDA, the leaders now are open to the peptides and they believe in it. And, you know, it was one of those things just like homeopathics where they were trying to, you know, get it out of the country. These are things that are so safe, they're a little more expensive than homeopathics, but relatively affordable compared to these Wagovy. I mean, my goodness, Ozempik, this is like bankrupting insurance companies. Expensive, you know, they're not they're not covering it a lot of times. Um so you know, these are effective ways, right? These are like you said, these are things that our body makes by itself. And as we get older, you know, we don't we're not as efficient as making these. And they're these are some really great ways to help the body heal, especially someone like you who had so much damage to to your gut and the inflammation, and especially the histamine.

Referred Pain And Meridian Clues

SPEAKER_00 25:39

I didn't know that about KPB, that it was um, oh yeah, I use it for my chronic illness where people I have like it's either they have mast cell, but like they typically have mast cell, but they also have like Hashimoto's or Lyme or all these other things. So they can't even take like an herb, like it just flares them up. So we do larrazitide, which is an amazing, you know, molecule that you can do that just seals those gaps in the gut. So before I even do KPV, we'll put in like some larazzotide that kind of calms it down, but then we can slowly add in the KPV because if you just throw them on it, it'll flare everything up too. But it can help too. With any, I mean, you could even do some like, I mean, LL37 can be kind of an antimicrobial and like a biofilm peptide. But you know, obviously you listen, we listen to the story of what they have going on. And like, I mean, with me, like I had so much going on. I mean, there was a point where like I would eat certain foods and my whole mouth would swell. But I mean, I I wasn't I was infected, like with what I still don't necessarily know, but like I mean, I assume it was my teeth and then nerves and you know, and I and I and I'm so convinced because I had so much pain here, and that's all I focused on. And it was always like, oh my god, what do I do here? How do I get this? Like I'm spraying stuff in my nose, I'm doing this, and nothing ever worked. But it was always it, it was the second I got that taken care of, it just like went away. Yeah. It's funny.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 26:58

Well, and it's interesting, you know, the idea you kind of hinted to it about referred pain, right? One of the most common ones is it an infected wisdom tooth socket, which affects the upper teeth, right? Because if you think of the facial nerve, it's like a hand, you know, you put your your palm against your face, and that cavitation way back kind of near the root of that nerve, right, can affect anywhere along it. Um and and that's very common. So again, you want a dentist who's gonna understand that whole picture and be like, okay, you know, because uh a lot of people end up getting root canals when they might not necessarily need it, right? When but and so it's like, oh, that didn't work, right? So then we're gonna do the tooth next to it, and then the one next to it, and then the one next to it, and you know, and then you end up with your case where you have to have so many teeth removed. So it's really interesting. You gotta do that. And that's why the meridian chart is interesting. And again, ask what are other good symptoms? You know, but I've had a lot of patients who would get joint replacement, and a few months later the tooth on that same meridian starts hurting. And I'm like, hmm, interesting. Energy is not flowing well along that, right? Because there's scar tissue, right? There's all sorts of things that happen, even with, I mean, these are very, you know, surgeries that happen all day, every day. But and no matter how well it's done, right? If you are cut open in any way, you're gonna have fascia, you know, moving, and that's gonna prevent the proper flow of energy and nutrients and all these kinds of stuff. So it's important, you know. People kind of think, well, why does the dentist need to know my medical history? Because everything is connected, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:24

We were high blood, yeah. I mean, every like high blood pressure. I mean, you name it, I think it's all like just super important for sure. Like, I mean, I had so much pain running through my body at the time. Yeah, like I could barely walk downstairs, you know, and then just like I the inflammation, the amount of weight that I was just like putting on, and it wasn't I wasn't gaining weight. I was just like holding water because I was so sick, but that water then hurt every joint hurt, everything hurt. Um, I forgot I did cavitations too. God, I did both sides. I did it all. And those did it didn't even touch the surface. But yeah, I think there's just i it's it's something it's a growing topic, the biological dentistry, which is great. But it's so important. It's so important.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 29:10

Well, especially with clients, and you're working with these clients that are really sick, and it's that can be the final piece, right? But again, because nothing hurts per se, doctors and you know, and other healthcare politicians don't think about the mouth, right? One, they're not trained to have to know anything about. I mean, even us as dentists, we're not trained to think holistically about the math and and all this, these meridians and all these things, you know. I've uh just learned that on my own health journey and you know, and opened the the door of like, oh my gosh, there's a whole nother way to practice dentistry. This is amazing. So, what do you think, you know, having had all these major chronic issues, what what was the most important thing you think that you learned that can be for somebody who's like really sick like that, that can't get out of the bed, right? And they're probably diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, right? Which is basically like, we don't know here, just we're gonna slap this title on you. But for somebody who's really struggling with that, what do you think is the most foundational thing they need to start with?

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Diet. I mean, I mean, you diet, I mean, you gotta clean up your diet. I think if you start to like if your detox pathways are working and you clean up your diet and eat whole foods and get inflammatory foods out, whether you run a food sensitivity test or you just, you know, pull out what you think are gonna be the most common ones and just try to, you know, high protein vegetables, things like that. And get those drainage pathways working, you know, balance hormones, and then clear out the gut. And if you are not better, there's something else going on, you know, because that's what I was doing. I did it all. And that would there's no absolutely no reason a person at the level of health that I got to that should be that sick. So you are doing the right things, you know. But I know it's hard when you are that tired, it's so hard to even like comprehend something like that. So, you know, maybe just be open-minded and start going to doc to holistic practitioners or functional or whatever, and you know, and go find like a true biological dentist, not like a functional dentist, or I think, you know, getting to someone who's like a biological dentist and really understands they can do a comb beam and just kind of take a look at at what's going on. Podcasts are amazing. I mean this alone. Like educate yourself. That's what I did. I just started listening to podcasts and podcasts and podcasts. And I'd go and I'd I'd come back with all this stuff. I'd be like, okay, so here, you know, at the bottom of this tooth, there's this going on. And then I and I'm like, oh, so I just got a bone spicula because he wouldn't answer on the weekend sometimes. I'd be like, oh my god, what is happening? And I'd be like text, you know, texting Kelly and then you know, DMing Dom, and I'd be like, What is happening? They're like, probably a bone spicula coming out. I was like, this hard it's just different kind of pain, you know. So, you know, I think diet is super important, you know. What do you think?

Dr. Rachaele Carver 31:55

So you learn existing. What do you think is a really good, you know, initial test to really see what's going on under the hood? Obviously, you we get blood tests all the time, and usually they're just junk, right? They're not informative at all. Um, so thinking about a functional test, what what's your favorite to kind of start with?

SPEAKER_00 32:14

I mean, I do a lot of food sensitivity testing, but that's just real, I think that's still a little foundational. But I think the Dutch test is a really good test. I like that it taps into like methylation and some of the gut markers and neurotransmitters. So like transmitters are low, they're made in the gut. So that's a sign of if that's off, that's a sign of a gut infection. Methylation can cause a lot of inflammation. So, you know, if you're a poor methylator, you could potentially have, you know, MTFHR. So that's going to cause a lot of inflammation. For me, I've always chased inflammation, like thinking something was wrong, my gut's wrong, my teeth are wrong. Like, why is everything so swollen? And my markers are great on any biological test, but I have the gene variant. So my I ended up testing, and so I have I have two of the SNPs, and my my kid, because I was doing it because my kid too, and he has one, and I'm like, oh, I'm not really like inflamed, I just can't methylate. No, and I I did support myself on it, but like now just have like knowledge is power, it gives you a little bit of ease. Okay, this is what what's happening. It's not because I ate a piece of broccoli, that's not what's causing an inflammation. It's not necessarily hormones. Um, but if you're a poor methylator, it's gonna cause more estrogen dominance, and that can cause a lot of inflammation. Like I I could cycle, like I PCOS, but like I mean, I'm cycling, but I could tell, like when I would ovulate, everything started to just get so swollen when I was going through this like the past three years. Like it was like my uterus hurt to the point where I couldn't sit down. And when that would happen, my teeth would get worse. And to the point where I'd be like, just pull anything out, and I'd be in there like twice a week. And I'd be like, I don't know what's wrong. I don't know, do another x-ray, do something, like I don't know. And they're like, Sam, and I'm like, I am telling you something is wrong. And and because it would be that one where the gum, the gum would flare up every time I ovulated. And they, you know, I'd text all the big guys and I'd be like, What's happening? They're like, Well, there's more blood blood flow, so maybe I'm like, Well, you guys need to look into this and figure it out because I can't take any more. Um, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

And I think I want to know that would with pain.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 34:17

I'm always thinking, you know, energy flow and the uterus of one of my you know good friends, Kelly Kenny, she's always she thinks like, you know, uterus over that's all lymphatic tissue, right? And so when that gets swollen, you can't drain very well, right? You get the pain, you get and and it goes everywhere. You know, a lot of us don't drain very well, you know. We we can detox, but we're not great drainers. We sit so much of the time, you know. Modern humans are just sitting all the time, and we have to the only way we can move the lymph, right? Which is kind of like our toxic, our sewer of the body, basically, we've got to get up and and moving it. You know, I see this especially, you know, in kids today, they're just mine included, they're just attached to the phone. They won't they don't get out of bed. It's so you know frustrating to watch. But so you talk the Dutch test, which is uh it's a hormonal test.

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SPEAKER_00 35:03

Um yeah, it does hormones, it tests the cortisol, which is important. I think you need to support your cortisol rhythm, and then it gives you a good glimpse into like you need to get in the sun more, like you need to like try to fix that circadian rhythm. Like, I mean, it's obviously like I'm I'm really like I do like all the crazy biohacking stuff and peptides, it costs you a fortune, all those things. But like, I mean, seriously, get outside in the sun, you know, go for a walk. You may feel horrible, like, but you're always gonna feel better when you go for a walk. I mean, dry brush if your lymphatic system, it takes you one minute to dry brush your body the proper way before you get in the shower. Like, there's something that starts. Drink water. I'm horrible at drinking water, but that's just my one like pitfall. But like, you know what I mean? There's there's things you can do for sure that aren't so aggressive, but they're they sh they will move the needle. Castor oil packs are amazing. I was rubbing castor oil on everything. Like, I mean, you name it. I was red lighting my mouth. I would sleep with I have a like a little like uh like I got the portable one, and I literally I'd wake up at night and I would open my mouth and just like lay there and have it in my mouth, and then I put it on my cheeks and I put it because I didn't like I was like, Well, it's inflammation, I just need to bring it down, it's gonna help heal it, whatever. And I just I lived with that thing on my face. I would be on calls with it just on my face, like all the time. But it whatever it takes.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 36:26

Yeah. Well, one of my other favorite tests is the organic acid test, because that will really look at, you know, how are you metabolizing certain things, right? That looks into your mitochondria, how are how are you absorbing and and digesting, you know, proteins that also looks at the neurotransmitter, looks for mold, right? I think that's one of the biggest, most insidious infections. Mold's everywhere. You know, my husband always argues with me, like there's mold everywhere. I'm like, I know, but it's so much more aggressive now because our buckets are so much fuller, right? There are so many toxins in our environment today, and they just make the mold angrier. So now, yes, mold's been around since the millennia, you know, beginning of time, but now it's just the the toxins from the mold are so much more aggressive. And the biggest problem is that they suppress your immune system. Yeah, right. So we're you know, we're getting more cancer as younger and younger, and all these problems happening because the mold is just shutting down our immune system. And yeah, and that's a very, very hard infection to get rid of. But it's important to look for that, right? Because if we're in a house, we're never gonna get better, no matter how much money you spend on all the biohacking, the peptides, whatever, you know, even you know, getting stuff out of your the the infections in your mouth, if you're still constantly, you know, inhaling those spores and creating more mycotoxins, that that's a problem.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

So for sure, for sure. Well, I think too, it's important. Like I started, like I have grounding pads on everything now. And then, you know, I have some people that are so sensitive to mold that like even if they don't put their like aura ring on airplane mode, I haven't put it on air airplane mode because all the EMF will just cause more of those myotoxins to just flourish. And I do, you know, I have my Wi-Fi on a timer, so like anything kind of like prevent that. But yeah, mold is a beast, especially like, yeah, I mean our immune system's already pretty shot, just with poor diet and lifestyle and and the stress, yeah, low. But it's you see more and more of like that mast cell and like and SIBO. If you have SIBO, the combination of the two, and and mold and bacteria bind to estrogen. So you have all these women that are super estrogen dominant, eventually you got the cancer. Oh, yeah, it's a catalyst for sure.

unknown 38:33

Sure.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 38:34

Yeah, so so it it's sometimes it just feels very overwhelming, you know, because you don't know where, but that's I like what you said. Number one, I totally agree. We've got to start with what we're putting into our body. So we've gotta start with a diet. And you know, it can be challenging because what you know, people all the time say to me when I ask about their diet, they're like, I eat healthy. And I and I always ask, what does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_00 38:55

Whatever.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 38:55

Because right, like I actually I did a biome test, right? And my body, I cannot break down all the the glucosinolates, I think they're called, in in all the cruciferous vegetables, right? They're supposed to be the healthiest vegetables on the planet. Um, and I, you know, I'm a person who has a defect in my glutathione path. So I really need the sulfur, but I can't get it from those foods because it makes me more inflamed. And I thought that was fascinating. You know, when I went to a more meat and fruit-centered diet, my gut was never healthier. I mean, I kind of stopped eating vegetables other than like green beans and peas and zucchini, like unbelievable. And I thought, well, if I don't eat broccoli, you know, I'm gonna be in trouble. But so I think that's like when you're talking about doing food sensitivities and you know, these these tests, and they do they do add up, but um, I think it's important to understand how your body is working so that you can optimize your health. There is no one plan for everyone, and that makes it a little challenging, you know. Like I have a family of four, and we're all totally different, and you know, we all actually need a little bit different. My kids are both homozygous MTHFR, so like they need more detoxification support than me and my husband. Um, you know, they're teenage girls and they don't wanna, you know, they don't want to listen to what I have to say. I'm laying the found foundation, so they'll they'll come back around. I keep telling myself eventually.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

Yeah, and sometimes like I mean that's when supplementation can be really great and just you know, the methylfolate or something like that, you know, different things like that can be helpful. Um times like that, I think. Like with my kid, that's what we do. We do high levels of zinc and copper and because he's got some behavior like mental health stuff, you know. So it's been it's been easier to do that, I think.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 40:38

Yeah. I think, you know, that's my you know, I used to show so many supplements down their throats when they were little and they were pretty good about it. They could swallow stuff pretty early, but and now, you know, they push back about everything, but at least I try to get minerals in their body every day because I think minerals are just so so foundational. Even you know, even though they really need like the metal folding stuff, I I'm even more, you know, pushing all those minerals is they're just so vital for all of our enzymatic reaction and our food, you know, our food just is so deficient in minerals today that and the one they take is such a tiny little pill, they usually don't fight me on it. Although, you know, sometimes I go in the room and I find the pile of supplements, you know, hidden tissue body.

Mold Toxins And Environmental Load

SPEAKER_00 41:17

Oh yeah, I found them under the couch. I mean, my guy's eight, so for sure. But he lately it's been he's splitting them with me, like the ones that you can split. Yeah. So I have a two-able glutathione that just came out and he'll like give me half, and I'm like, oh god, like I just injected a bunch. Whatever. But he, you know, it's I think that we're planting a seed, and you know, we're also dealing with kids, so you just plant the seed and then hope that you know that's the best we can do, really.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 41:44

For sure. And they'll come around if they feel sick enough. That's what usually happens.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 41:48

That's very true. So in your on your website, you know, you will have really help coach people along. Can you tell us a little bit about some of the programs that you do or the type of patients you typically work with?

Personalized Nutrition And Minerals For Kids

SPEAKER_00 42:01

Yeah, I have uh it's becoming it's becoming a wider range than it used to be, probably due to peptides, I would say, because I now have a lot of guy clients that just want to look beautiful, which is whatever. And um, but they all have to do a GI panel. Everybody has a GI panel. I never skipped that one. But I have a lot of women who just are really struggling with like burnout, constipation, hormone imbalances. They just don't there's the symptoms are growing rapidly each month. And the the desire to like they just don't eat, they can't work out anymore, and they're realizing that like their doctors are gaslighting them or completely ignoring them, then so they start seeking out other avenues. And so that's I have a lot of women, you know, it runs from even like young girls with acne to you know perimenopause. I don't I have a couple in menopause, and then I have and like a lot of weight loss resistance, you know, we work through that. I don't just hand out GLPs, I do some work with Rhythotrutide, but I definitely make sure they're doing everything else and hormones are balanced and optimized, and we look at the gut. And so I do a lot of the functional lab testing, and then I work with a lot of people in recovery. So a lot of times when people get sober, they just don't, whether they're addicts or not, like you just quit, let's just say, or you're like me, I'm an addict. So, like I, you know, I uh I had years of abuse kind of done doing harm to my body, but you don't always feel good right away, and I think that's a high risk for relapse. And so when you can just get in there right at that right time to say, okay, here's why you're craving sugar all the time, here's what's happening with the bloating, here is why you have brain fog, and you can go in there and teach them. It's very empowering for someone who spent years just trashing their bodies. And so when you teach them a new way of life, it it helps them appreciate their sobriety more, which is a you know, less likely chance that they're gonna relapse. You know, there's a lot you can do to really I mean, your blood sugar, if you've been drinking, like your blood sugar's a mess, your sleep's a mess, your gut's a mess, you mean you name Everything's a mess, and you're really gonna you might feel you're gonna feel a little better for sure in the beginning, but then you're gonna be like, I want more, because we're addicts, we always want more. And so, you know, when when things aren't working, it's it's frustrating. I mean, it it's it's with anyone really, but for sure when you when you're in that space, uh and that's just because it's a special space to me, too. And I think everybody struggles with some sort of addiction, you know. And I think that if you even have one drink, it's important to know that like that will just cause a dumpster fire of of issues throughout the body, especially as you get older. That's why a lot of people are quitting in perimenopause because they just can't even handle it. Your NAD is low, your I mean everything. So, yeah. Yep. So that's kind of my my bread and butter. I do have a lot of chronic I have some chronic illness. I have a lot of people who just reach out because they're mouth, just because they see what I've posted. Um it's not really my I mean, it's kind of my bread and butter, but it's definitely I'm not a biological dentist, but I I I'm very passionate about it. I mean, it it ruined my life for three years. Like I really ruined it. Like it was my relationship with my kid. I mean, I remember when I finally just like got out of the woodwork and like he could he like put his head uh like towards me on my shoulder, like he got near my mouth, and I didn't like freak out because I wasn't like I hadn't had a root canal or like I mean I would get a root canal and literally come home and have to go back to work because it was so frequent. Like I there's no way I could have run my business. Like I just I would do implants and maybe take half a day off, you know. And but I always had to be a mom. Um, and I'm a single mom. And so, like not being able to have your kid near your face ever, and then like realizing what you've lost for two and a half years, and they like come near your face and you're not like running, you know. He went through it. He has like a he's like, you know, he worries about my mouth and he like he went through it with me. You know, ice packs on your face, stuck on the couch while you're just trying to take care of a kid. I don't know what tangent I just got on, but oh yeah, people people I like to, yeah. I really I feel like I should be a mouth therapist or something.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 46:03

Like it's true, because you know, our children, they they feel right, especially, you know, the younger they are, they're still more in touch with their spiritual side, and they are getting a lot of their their energy from us as moms, we are primarily generally this isn't this a big generalization, but women are primarily the the first caregivers, and so how we're feeling in dealing with things has a big impact on them and their nervous system.

SPEAKER_00 46:31

So oh yeah, I was a mess. It was a mess. Just nothing good was going on, and I was just trying to, you know, I'd I'd I'd take a bunch of steroids and antibiotics and then go like speak at a conference and then just like come back and be like, I would just pray, and that's when you have to. Like I've I'm such a like visionary and I'm such a like I just want to get grow, grow, grow, do more, more, more. And I would just pray. I would just like that day I did that the big thing in May before I got my tooth, that last tooth pulled. I was so I do not know how I did it. It was literally by the grace of God that I did it and I was able to do it. And like I, you know, the times when I like I MC'd a really big health conference, I just said yes. I was like, I have no idea. I don't even know if I'm gonna have teeth at this point. Like I literally, you know, and I just said yes. And I just I had some we would like fill in temporaries, like my biodentist would be like, okay, we're gonna get you all ready to go out there, and we just have like whatever it was we'd have, and I just pray I wouldn't like lose my partial or like a tooth would fall out, like I'd be scared to fly, like my tooth would just fall out, like because teeth were just really falling out, so yeah, yeah, it's a lot, but but you're on the other side, which is yeah, should be encouraging for everybody.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 47:44

I hope, yeah, yeah. So as we're kind of wrapping up the hour here, um, is there any important tips that you want to leave us with?

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SPEAKER_00 47:53

Tips? I'd be proactive, not reactive. So get in with a biological dentist, make that your primary for your dental health. I think it's really important. They're all over now. There's a lot of people doing it. I'm sure that you have a link that you can share. And I would I would go get like a comb beam and I would go just do some preventative work and make sure that you don't have any underlying infections. If you this definitely if you have metal fillings, get them out. You're you're wondering why you're tired and you have eczema and psoriasis and all these things, like it's probably the fillings, you know, and and do it the right way. And then if you have root canals, definitely get them checked out. If you have a metal implant that you've had for a long period of time, go get it checked out, you know. But I think having having a biodentist in your in your toolbox is really, really important, um, for sure.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 48:43

Yeah, absolutely. You know, somebody who's gonna be looking where nobody else is is thinking to look is really great. And then, you know, it's about having that team, right? Yes, you need the biodentist, but then you need And then have one of me. Exactly. You need the functional diagnostic nutritionist, you know, the you need somebody.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

You do, because it's so stressful, your hormones are gonna go. I mean, I have PCOS, went absolutely crazy too. I also do have a theory, so I I ended up um I always forget this and then I remember it, but I I do kind of have a theory. So I ended up, I did end up having to get the vaccine, long story, but anyway, I did it. And um, I I think that's part of why my teeth literally started falling out. And I maybe it's because I got COVID, but it happened so quickly after I got the vaccine, is when all the teeth like I had a a crown that I was also on there from when I was little, like that fell off, and then things just started like happening with my teeth the second I got the vaccine. I was in the hospital with my PCOS, I had ovarian cyst, I put on 15 pounds, it was like on the floor in more pain than I was when I was pregnant. And so I seriously think that that vaccine, and I'm not like whatever, do what you want to do, but I'm gonna tell you I have another friend who did it and her teeth just crumbled out of her mouth. She ended up pulling every single one of them and doing four point four-point like dentures in both sides.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 50:03

I I mean, I have to say, you know, I've been in practice 22 years, and at that point it was, you know, like a little under 20 years, and I had never seen the amount of rapid decay ever in my life. My patients who'd been stable for years and years, suddenly decay was just rip roaring through their mouth. I mean, I can't, there's nothing else I can contribute it to other than the vaccine. I know what we know now is that vaccine really suppresses your immune system. Yeah. And if if you listen to my podcast, you know that I believe that the root of the decay really is a malfunction in the immune system, right? It's the imbalance of the bacteria, there's something happening, nervous system, digestive system, immune system. That's that's where we're getting the problem. So um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

I'm sorry, I just threw a big nugget.

SPEAKER_00 50:47

I just threw a big nugget out there right at the end. Yeah. But I I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes I don't know either, but it's in my experience. I also right. I also smoked math for like eight years, so I don't you know.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 50:59

But I mean, no, in my experience, I it was it's very dramatic. Very dramatic what I know is after that.

SPEAKER_00 51:06

So yeah, it'll come out eventually. We'll find out. Yeah, we'll see. So how can we find you? Tell us all your your places where we can get in touch. It's pretty easy if you just type in C Fit Living anywhere. So S-E-E-F-I-T and then living um.com is my website. I do free clarity calls if you're interested in doing some of the functional work and the lab testing, you know, to even go along with your biological work, whatever. I do uh I have a lot of I'm pretty active on Instagram and that's CFIT Living. And you can see I have I have posts in there on on my dental journey. You can DM me if you want me to send them to you directly because they might be hard to search for. But there's a lot of video. I've tried to document all of it because I'm like, I'm gonna make a movie. There's gonna be something on this. So I would film it. I just have some horror films. Like I never thought I would cry on Instagram, and I think right in that that November, I was just like, like, I was so terrified. I was so scared, you know. Well, great.

Dr. Rachaele Carver 52:05

Well, we'll put the the link in the the website for those, the social media. So thank you so much for taking time this afternoon to chat with the audience. And I think your story will probably resonate with a lot of people. And I think the most important thing is that don't give up hope, right?

SPEAKER_00 52:20

You know, that no, just it'll get better.

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Dr. Rachaele Carver 52:23

We can come through a lot, a lot of things if you find the right team. And like, like you said, right? You went through six ENTs. Like, if the first one isn't the right one, go see somebody else. There is gonna be somebody there who's gonna be right for you. And yes, it's frustrating and tiring. Sometimes it's a lot of money and time, but the answers are out there. So, number one, listen to your intuition, right? You know best for you, you know what's gonna resonate with you, but but don't give up hope because there's so many great stuff out there. I think you probably piqued a lot of people's interest talking about peptides. They're really, really phenomenal. And I'm I'm excited to use more. I I don't use much in the healing, but now you've got me kind of thinking and I got all the biodentists using it.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

I got to talk after, yeah. And like I just started injecting in here. Like, I don't recommend doing what I did, but like, yeah, definitely there's there's you could do it.

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It's good for the healing journey. Yeah, excellent. Yeah, especially those people with mast cell, you know, they're so sick. Like you said, they can't even like have the simplest herb because they're so reactive. So you've got to calm down that immune system first. So well, that's awesome. Thank you so much for your time. I hope everybody enjoyed this episode. And go check out Samantha on her website, cfitliving.com. Check her out on Instagram, give her a follow, and we'll see all of you on the next episode. Have a great day, everyone. Huge thanks to you, our amazing listeners, for helping us climb into the top five percent of podcasts in the oral health space. With all the love and support, we've been getting many requests for one on one consultations. So we made it happen. Are you ready to take your oral health to the next level? Click the link in the show notes to book your personalized consultation and let's kick start your journey to a healthier, brighter smile starting today. We'll see you then.